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Post by Onehand Wed 17 Jul 2024 - 16:20

a dutch wolf has made a new red riding hood yesterday.

the girl, was part of a larger group of children playing outdoors in the woods, when a wolf caught her from behind, and tried to bite her in her side, but it directly let the girl go, and did not bite through, the girl fell to the ground.

so it seems the first red riding hood version 2024 is made by that.

the group the girl was part of was from a after school child care organisation, that keeps children as much as possible outdoors. modern ways, but it seems not so great when there is a predator on the loose.

and even some say it was stupids to do it on the same grounds last week a wolf snacked a small dog with leash and all from its owner, no remains of a dog or leash are as far as known found.

the wolf is part of a wolf clan living in the woods that has young offspring so we have to accept wolf do defend themselves, even if we are told by experts of wolves, but not dutch wolves of course, the experts are much to young to know about that, that wolves would not try to eat humans because they are much to shy to think getting so near a human, large or small.

but the dutch wolf seems not to have read the latest manual, that advised the people that dogs kept at a leash and humans have nothing to fear from them.
so the new advice is simple keep out of these woods.

it is not that one or both really was that near a wolf's den at all.

but we are already used to hear that wolves walk through streets in villages, eat and hunt on sheep, cows and horses, something they forgot to put in the contract of the wolves too.

last week a video got out, where a wolf walked up behind some joggers, and past them.
before that we had a wolf that liked to sleep in someone's back garden. it was caught and set free in a patch without a back garden again.

another one was on video looking through a sliding door, but in the dutch tradition, that is remarkable different from that of english folks, the sliding glass door was closed and locked.

but the wolf who bite red riding hood version 2024 will soon be known, the clothing of the girl is taken to look for trace evidence with dna of the specific wolf.

we have no idea what will happen next, there is an official communication that there is asked to get the wolf shot, but it is under heavy protection regulations, so it is not easy to find something you could use to a so called problem wolf. earlier a wolf who approached cars and people was to handled with a paint ball gun, with invisible paint, to learn it to be shy of humans again. but wolf lovers protested and the judge sided with them.

too much people in a small country that by tradition always had with not even half the people of today a problem, so at the end of the 19th century the last one was killed. the opinions are heavily divided at best. who has animals want is to go. others seems to love it but have nothing much to fear from it.

source, in dutch of course it is about a dutch wolf;
https://nos.nl/artikel/2529246-ouders-dochter-bij-leusden-zeer-kort-gebeten-door-wolf


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Post by Onehand Tue 23 Jul 2024 - 18:27

last week after the first battle in the shared territoria of dutch wolves and dutch people it ended in a draw.

but the local council decided a replay of the match was not something they wanted to experience, so the private estate, annex grounds we would usually call over here a wood, or even nature is now forbidden for all human activity, except some guys who have a badge.

of course we have the kind of groups called pets light, who think all farm animals, kept animals and house hold pets have to set free, but who have no idea how that works out. so they are of the opinion humans cannot hold animals for anything, so they love the wolves, it is your own fault if the wolves dine on your animals, you just have to have a not so wolves resistant fence.

what most people think is simply stupid, and that giving all animals just very large cages, will not do well for other wild life that lives here too.
some even get it that far, that they welcome the idea no animals can be kept, and the wolves are a great tool for it, where another group is against putting all and everything in stables, they all have to live outside in groups.

but none have already jumped a bit further, because so much wild life to cover all bellies of dutch wolves we not really have for that long, and when they are gone, and there is no farm animal, or pet left, and the dutch wolves are still getting hungry.

of course none of them will volunteer when wolfie gets hungry.

and the dutch wolf is a great business model, at least, when you sell fences, or the stuff so people can build them, or you can pretend you know all about the habits of wolves in regions they have to share with large amounts of humans.

it is horrible if you have an estate with trees on it you could call woods, and you have to give public access because otherwise you would not be rewarded with all the nice premiums each year. or when you have a camping, or other touristy stuff, that lean on such estates to keep tourists busy.

and our freshly build parliament and the cabinet as we call our bunch of ministers is silent, maybe because they want to have their holidays too. ans usually they just say, you cannot do anything, because the eu says no. what has little truth in it.

so much stupidity, you cannot get your head around it, that there ever could live over 17 million people on that parcel of land.
out neanderthal ancestors must be turning in their hunebeds, at least they have room enough to that.

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Post by Onehand Thu 1 Aug 2024 - 7:40

and the next try out happened only yesterday.

again a small human life form, again female, had a close encounter with a large hairy animal, the dna results are still have to tell what it was, but it was a wolf or dog like organism that walked a toddler of her feet.

so what would the dutch do?

well the choice is made to go for a typical dutch tradition, at least it can work. i mean if you take out one of the players, the other can do not much harm anymore. so the provincial government decided to tell its citizen to stay out of the area with small human life forms, it is just to risky and besides that they are looking into getting an permission to shoot the animal.

but of course we have these animal rights groups, they are very much against the last, because the first episode was not heavy enough, come on, just leaving dna on the clothes and a small hole in cloth after the teeth have left the human cannot count for a real bite incident, and the scratches on the first human life form are not from the actions of the animal, but of the fall it made by itself.

of course the almost always working excuse is still out there, telling people in the netherlands and all nationalities on holiday there too, that it is the eu that says you cannot shoot wolves. they never did, but it sounds great.

other political organised human life forms have opted we must make areas wolf only, but that one must be a confused, because of the amount of grounds wolves need toi live their habits. and our small country that has to share already with 17,98 million heads of humans and the estimated 60 to 150 wolves makes that an olifant in the porcelain cabinet. you know counting wolves is different from how we learned to count things during our education, some simply count more then the others do. young wolves seem to not count as much in the numbers and individual wandering ones can be counted too much.

from the animal rights brigade its viewpoint we first have to find a human life form that is dined on by the wolves, before they see any harm. what would make it complicated because you can hardly share the story, i mean social media looks to have little problems with half eaten sheep cadavers, or a horse, alpaca, dog or cow. but most would have a problem when it was a human prey.

so maybe that indoor camping has a chance to grow in a full blown fresh holiday industry. i mean keep the door closed is so much easier than having humans to read and respect the rules, it is much cheaper than putting up fences wolves can not take on, that ship already have sailed. even zoo's who have much higher and sturdier fences to keep not hungry wolves in had proven that ages before the wolf was back in the netherlands.

and the strange thing is that the animal rights brigade is okay with half eaten prey under sheep, dog, alpaca, horse and cows, or that can go nowhere because they cannot escape the so called not so wolf resisting fence works, so when a wolf do get in, it is usually full party time. a bit as a all you can eat for wolves.

if you want to see pictures of such dined by the wolf on, there are multiple facebook groups that can show you, most are in a spoiler, so you have to agree upfront before they will show, this is one group, you could look at;
https://www.facebook.com/groups/933854610132377

it is a public group and facebook makes it easy to let you opt for translating the messages and comments, for imported text you have to look for the original links.

and it is all but a dutch problem, but as long as the wolves hunt down farm animals and household pets the covering in the news is shied away from. the governmental bodies do like to talk about it with effort, only the solutions never seem to arrive where it can solve something.

so it just become another thing to divide humans in a pro or contra wolf viewpoint.

and we also have always the poor of mind, who seem not to be able to think for themselves or their offspring, also the stupids who think they have to do the next try in making it pets, what always is a problem with the furry ones. and the holiday season is ongoing for some weeks, so there are new encounters to expect.

there is by the way little chance the next red riding hood audition will be from the ranks of the selective animal rights brigades, they are usually only to find behind a keyboard or phone. so there are only small margins one who uses the phone will walk accidentally into wolf areas to be eaten as an example.

to be continued.......




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Post by Onehand Fri 9 Aug 2024 - 8:47

wolfing, the dutch method.

now we can be sure that wolves, or at least one wolf has been in contact with young female humans, the dna said so in both cases, there is a happening going on, and it seems the classic dutch tactics are at play, what means we talk about it, use great words, no matter if anyone still understand the meaning of them, we simply do.

so of course we do not send someone out to just shoot the wolf, or wolves. that would be too simple and would most likely not agree with the regulations the dutch government chose to implement from the european union regulation.

as the dutch picked the all hands of the wolves, protecting them against all odds from the options in these regulations, they also kept the finger pointing at the eu, the; they made us do it, or maybe they made us not do it fits a bit better.

well we already know from history that young females never been counted fully when they been predated on, so why would that be different for wolves.

but the big talk is about establishing if it is still a problematic situation, or already a problematic wolf. the easy take would of course be getting said there are situations where the wolf and human encounter is a problem. but no, the guys are not been to university to keep it easy.

so they first studied both encounters between young females and a wolf, it is still waiting to the full dna analysis is back if it are the same or multiple wolves, it is already known the females are at least different individuals.

the first was not even fitting in a problematic situation, without the knowledge of the gender identification of the wolf in that case, the experts on all things written about wolf behaviour, it was already got into, that was protection of the offspring. not very experty safe of course, without some basic facts available and not even observing the act, telling what we have to accept must happened. so it must be noted as being a guess too.

you would think from that right to protect your offspring, human must be allowed to do that too, but the regulations about wolves are clear, the answer is a no, the wolves are far more important, of course wolves are less rare than people in the netherlands, and the long ago tamed wolves we nowadays call dogs are around plenty to.

you know the bigger problem between a problematic situation and a problematic wolf is, the experts made an earlier report that optioned that problematic wolves have to be shot.
and the experts do not like that.

and as more stories made the news about encounters with wolves, all showing behaviour they never would, a least by the opinion of the dutch wolf experts, what in itself of course has some question marks, because it was about 150 years we never had wolves. and in a country where the registered population is 17.98, so just shy of 18 million people on a small piece of landmass on earth living together happily with the wolves, who has quite a population growth estimated 3 times that of the humans, and having to share the ample space there is, in itself is a problematic situation, because it is a habitat that never is studied before, so that expert label must be from very different habitats or just the zoo.

still the last still known encounter between wolves and humans that ended later on in a win of humans over wolves was in 1810-1811, when wolves dined a bit overly enthusiastically on the local youth of roermond. from some only bones or half a body was recovered. it is well documented and printed at the time, so still to find.

well there are large organisations who still tell wolves, are not dangerous to humans, but the dutch papers already gone from not dangerous, to almost never dangerous. so by the history of roermond that always can change in wolves are dangerous to humans.

and it already started, because an area where the first audition of the modern red riding hood took place has now a forbidden to entry for humans, and a much larger area, where at this time of year it usually is quite busy with people looking at the purple blooming heather and taking stroll with the family through woods and fields is now of limits for taking young children into it.

walking a dog, and in common outside in the countryside dogs can left of leashes, is no longer advices, but keeping the leashes on is not helpful, if wolves want a snack they do not mind in taking the leash too. dogs are already approached by wolves, and this week another dog was bitten by a wolf.

from other countries who have areas where very low numbers of people work and live, like in scandinavia it is already known wolves do like to snack on dogs and cats, or any other pet they get their teeth in. there they simply shoot such ones. we cannot do that. we chose to implement the wrong sentences of the eu regulations.

i mean we cannot say sweden or austria are not in the same eu and they do shoot them, france too.

but we are mostly in the phase our not so experty experts, not even one of their sayings about the wolves versus human encounters, or wolves versus kept animals is respected by the wolves itself.

the first candidate for the title of red riding hood of 2024, was actually taking part of kind of school , where children are kept as much as possible in the outside world. a bit growing up like the neanderthal kids did, so an encounter with a wolf was in itself not something that not could be part of the curriculum of that school type of course.

in germany there was already in 2019 such a like wise schooling system called waldkita, or in english that would end up called wood creche, that has to take their activity elsewhere because of the wolves, or wolf the culprit there is known as GW1430m.
and that one only looked at them.

the responsible head of the waldkita did really motivated the leaving of the woods by wolves are shy of humans, they would not directly try to attack a child. well that is already known differently now.

i know i also grew up with the story of mowgli, or the jungle book, but even the most organic bred children must be not there to become a mowgli, and mowgli’s are known, but much more rare as children that been wolf dinner. so the wild idea to integrate as much nature in the upbringing of children gets a bit more complicated nowadays.

but at this moment talking seems the best solution to not solve anything for anyone. not for wolves, and not for humans, and of course it solves nothing if you are accidentally ended up as being a sheep, a turkey, a goose or gander, a chicken, an alpaca, a horse, a cow, dog, cat ort anything commonly known as all other animals except the wolves.

the other measure taken is simply be very selective in what you tell the ignorant mass of citizens, so you start to use percentages of wolf attacks on farm animals, so the majority was not protected by a not cheap fence that does not keep a wolf out, but that you are not told really much.

the government gets help of the extremist greenies, who brings on the ideas that humans dine much more on animals than wolves, well per kilo of human versus wolves, that could still be lost to the wolves. or household dogs do bite much more humans. yeah, but there are officially only a 100 wolves, excluded the cubs from this year and all that are not so much settled, against about 1.8 million of dogs. and dogs are not given much second chances.

if a dog start to hunt and bite cattle, horses or sheep, and you have a permit for a firearm, you can simply shoot it. i always was better in catching them, it was mostly not a problematic dog, but the problematic owner, and you cannot shoot them either. and i am overall quite fond of dogs.

the stories about people who are able shooters that simply handled wolves without telling are around long enough, and with what i do know about that part of the population it is something that is happening. and such things will happen with a government that prefers talking and hiring not so much experts on wolves in the typical dutch territory to write reports no one reads at all beyond the short intro.

i am just waiting until someone decides it could work much better to catch wolves alive and put the in the parks in some of the bigger cities, to show what they never would do to humans.

you cannot expect knowledge gathered from wolf populations in the original areas, where humans are less prone to be found into a workable solution for the fully cultured and controlled dutch territory. i have been in many areas wolves never left, or been rewilded again, never seen anyone of them, and i did look out for them, i have seen the rewilded european bisons in free nature, the wolverine, we had foxes on the farm, many martens too, and seen them in many places in europe. some much rarer in numbers than wolves, i have seen even a glimpse of a bear in france. most in areas humans had little access to. but all areas had the same feature, there was much more space to not meet each other. such space is lacking in the places we call nature in the netherlands.

it simply cannot be nice living in the netherlands for wolves, traffic is everywhere, human activity too. the places that have sufficient numbers of edible not kept animals are mostly out of easy reach, or kept up to a specific number, because more would bring harm to that area, we do that with the wild boars, most of the deer kinds too.
there are situations where there are indeed problems, mostly because the animals are exotics, like the fallow deer, many kinds of gooses, but you cannot expect to train the wolf to prey, and most are not even living in the same habitats as wolves seem to prefer.

i mean wolves could solve the problems with fallow deer in some of the beach communities, but that would very early be called to dangerous for humans, because these live near traffic routes and housing. the rewilded goose kinds live in habitat that are not known as good for wolves. wild boar is more a problem in places in the east, but wild boar is not a great favorite to dine on for wolves, and where wild boars are a problem, it is usually to near private properties, like agriculture lands and gardens.

but there is a growing community of people who already have experienced all the wolves would not do, or only very rarely, simply seems to be a common event.

also with the growing numbers it is no longer a workable advice to people of the public in what to do when they meet a wolf, but what if you meet a pack of wolves is still missing.
so there has simply be more horrific histories to write again. but if that will cancel the talking over doing is still not much in expected.

and there is nothing that feeds more into illegal actions than a lazy government.

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Post by Onehand Sat 10 Aug 2024 - 12:24

going dutch with wolves.

i think the often negative pretenses when the english language used the prefix dutch somewhere is all right for this title.

so if you had plans for the weekend or holidays to take a stroll in certain area of what would be written on the dutch maps as ‘de utrechtse heuvelrug’, with the extended family, parts are a full no go zone, the rest is a do not, again do not take your own young offspring, or likewise you just lent for the day with you. mother in laws are still not made known, but you can try that still.

also if you make a picture of wolves with offspring, do not post them on social media, because the dutch government will find you and order you, intimidate or ask you to take them down. all motivated by words like, we do not want to create a photo safari on them.

if you ended up living there, you are doomed of course. no, it is no longer me time if you have your own young offspring, or any pets or farm animals or in betweens you have that duty to care on too. do not book a holiday, you need the money and time to fix a fence wolves do not respect, but otherwise there is a risk other minded people will expose you on facebook.

it does not matter if your fence is okay or not, and some are at least better, like higher but that does not equal approved by the wolf consultants of course, still if a wolf comes dining out at your place, you still get paid for your loss, well looking at the amount of money the have on their lists you can hardly be better off. and think to order timely the vaccines, if you do not use the not under obligation, yes, there are hardly others than by your own free choices, because in the horse category you will get less. it seems not really that much less you actually win on it, i mean more and more of the veterinary boys and girls are nowadays a service, meaning at least doubled in prices. and it seems a adult horse never could be bring you over 6000 euros. there is a rising in opinions that the government actually prefers you do not buy a new one again. and 6000 would be still make you able to get a few weeks in the sun. at least when your work makes some extra days free available, you already spend on getting the not very wolf resistant fences.

and at least half of the amount you probably need to use to pay the psych, because you get to deal with the keyboard warriors on social media, telling you, you lacked your duty of care.

and look out, if you have shetland ponies, i think it is better to keep them fully indoors, i remember one of ours, who i fenced in in exactly the same way as advised against wolves, okay i first used the advise of the studbook of the little ones, but our red lady jumped easily out of that, so i put another electrified power wire above that one, she stopped jumping, but just was able to sneak under the lowest one on 25 cm, so i ended up with 5 wires above each other, en ze simply jumped through the middle ones.

for examples of shetland proof indoor facilities, you can always look at sites that are against keeping farm animals, they use many old pictures of how to keep anything in, okay, without sunlight, a view or other nicer things, but it did work in the past , so why not.

and our national news seems to like it at the moment to serve us little videos of deer who win from wolves, or how the wolf catches a deer calf, because it cannot jump the same height as its mummy, and wolves know that, the fence is there to keep the wild boar on the allowed side. because with wild boars we can do such things.

and that is what many think is simply wrong, all these fences select also many other wild animals. many who also have to live on both sides, animals like roe deer, hares, martens and many others simply also share your fields and crops, with many fences that will no longer be possible. it also makes the probability they can run out a wolf less likely.

but an animal that was gone for over 150 years, because in that country in these times with less than halve the human population as nowadays could not live safely with them.
still it is claimed the wolfs have a right to be in our so called nature, where it can join up with moeflons, at least is seems they are already eaten, scottish highlander cows, or wisents, heck cattle or the recreated native look a likes of the wild ox. we also have galloways, water buffalo and young common dutch breed that are set in the natural areas to do the work of grazing. there are of course also loads of koniks, norwegian fjords, shetland ponies, iceland pony and many young common breed horses that do the same,and one that we know is indeed a prey for wolves, the exmoor pony. but that was okay said the judge some weeks ago, when others who have sport and recreation horses asked to have them better fenced of from wolves, because it was not a great idea to learn wolves to hunt horses by bait them with exmoor ponies, but the judge did not agreed in that. there were masses of sheep grazing natural areas, many sea dykes are called nature too,.

the sheep are not only prey for many wolves, but also blue tongue, so many have died from that and it can mean people simply give up on keeping sheep. there are no observations both work together.

so all together the dutch do not truly live in a free country, we are regulated by wolves. we just have to get used to them, with very simple rules, just stop, stand still make yourself big, and start to walk back very slowly, you are allowed to make some noise, but itis results end up in a wolf who accidentally and in his full natural instinct still want to come closer or worst, you cannot run, that doing a runner, outside your pants of course would be so much more dangerous and if it are end up you are just in the middle of a full pack of wolves, you have do decide on your own, do you make a last call, a last selfie, do you go live for a public, or pray, just what you like, no government has decided what would be the best option jet, you will be simply on your own. good luck. you still could be the first.

the list of best victims is as follows;
a dutch sheep keeper, not even a sheep farmer, just kept some for the fun of it. he only had some stitches it was made know. but there was a drawing of some blood, human blood.the wolf got shot a bit later. wolf not at fault, the farmer looked mad at him.
. a young dutch girl, school age, no blood drawn, only a debatable print in clothes of the supposed canine tooth of a wolf. dna was conclusive. scratches are from making the big escape. wolf was not at fault, even the gender of the wolf is not jet back from the lab, it is supposed it is a she wolf, that just protected her offspring. so she attacked the girl from the back.
another younger dutch girl, toddler material, there was proven contact with a wolf, dna conclusive, but only scratches from falling, when the wolf walked a bit overly enthusiastic to the dog on a leash of that family. not the wolf at fault, it protected something is believed and saw a risk in the family pet dog. the girl was just in the way.
only mental trauma, of seeing her dog taken with its leash still on it. it was a dwarf poodle type of dog. of course we cannot blame the wolf, a woman in the woods with a doggy on a leash walking around is very giving wolves a lot of fear.

the odds are still out if victims 2, 3 and 4 are from the same wolf, nor is the gender out, but even when the wolf protection teams have talked down what must happened in all 3 cases, they think it could still be only a problematic situation, the concluded that is will simply not enough to convict a wolf to being a problematic wolf.

so for them the only solution must be, catch the wolf, give them a device to follow them, and or use paintballs with invisible ink to make them less attracted to humans. at first the case on the number 3 of the list , that was presented as a dedicated wolf attacking, but after the full story got out, they saw a change to inform us the intent was just seeking contact with the dog. before that happened they voted to simply shoot that wolf. they need simply much more information to do that.

and there it was again, a wolf saved by doing the dutch talk, it has a name by the way, it is called polderen. it means talking and talking until a better excuse is in the way, if it was already organised by the law, what is of course a government task, one shot could ended a lot. there are enough wildlife maintenance man and woman, who often als do the odd bit of hunting. they have to go incognito of course. and the would not be allowed to keep it, the first problematic wolf that was shot on order, the one from the first case does not count that was just a very brave mayor, no one that was shot by playing it all by the book of wolfs, has to end up stuffed in the collection of a museum, probably next to the house sparrow that played false with domino.

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Post by Onehand Sun 25 Aug 2024 - 21:22

of course time for an update.

red riding hood austerlitz1 was indeed walked of her feet by a wolf, dna has proven it, it was gw3237m, so it was a male wolf.
red riding hood den treek-henschoten1 was already proven to be in much nearer contact with the wolfs teeth, but that left to little dna behind to name the offender, just enough to know it was a wolf too.

after multiple clashes with mostly the other family members called dogs, besides a load of sheep, cows, horses, a cat and a turkey in the area that goes by the name of the utrechtse heuvelrug, it is decided gw3237m will be the first who can be legally catched, be anesthetised and get a collar with a transmitter, at least the specialist wolf catching team has do some schooling, and thinking out how to catch a wolf.

the hope is gw3237m will find that all but a pleasant experience and understands it would be much better to stay away of humans and dogs. if it does not work this one can be shot. all provisionally and behold the outcome of all the courtcases the animal rights of that name and all others say they want to take on.

and i could not find it very clear if it would already tried in the near future, or only when this guy start hunting humans or dogs again.

the area of den treek-henschoten is still banned teritory for the common humans. they extended it up to in september.

but that is not all, walking the woods with small humans is not a great idea all over the woods in that part of the country.

and now the summer holidays are over, there is the idea children who normally travel by bike through the woods to school, can be better of by travelling in groups, and very young children better be accompanied by at least 1 adult.

where we before learned from our homegrown self established wolf experts that the wolf is afraid of people, or better called as shy, now you have to keep young children best not with you in the woods, and dogs on a short leash near you.

if it was a game, it was now some score of 25 points to the wolves, and zero for the not so experty experts about wolves.

the advise still starts from just one wolf, but as they grow in number fast, they also start to form their packs.

the usual advise of not to run away, but talk loudly make yourself big seems in daily happenings not having very much effects, but if you see a cub you have to get away very quick. so now it is waiting until the last rule of advise will be written, do you meet a pack of wolves; good luck!

a mayor of one of one of the places supposedly is travelling to finland, to hear how they solve wolf troubles there, it is already out that in finland they simply use a schoolbus and pick the children up at their homes in areas with wolves.
still many children who are used to play in the borders of the woods, what often be their own gardens and streets, the ones who join in clubs that organise things in or near the woods are no longer be able to do that without worries.

what was used to point nasty fingers out to farmers, even only the ones who have livestock that is kept usually outside in fields, or all others who have some of such animals just because they like that, is now taken bites of freedom from younger children and families.

also people who publish pictures of the wolf, some with cubs, are even asked in a serious way to take them offline again by representatives of governmental organisations.

so it has all to become a story where no one still can no what is true or not, what is conspiracy or truth. and many do no longer believe and think the honesty already is lost in the debate.

still most people do not hate wolves, but there is a more realistic opinion in a growing group that wolves back walking the woods, streets and gardens in a small country that also has 18 million people in it, that lived over 150 years without wolves is not the best idea. and when the last wolves been hunted down and killed there only was 3 million people around.

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Post by Onehand Sun 6 Oct 2024 - 8:10

as i do not live in an area where many wolves live too, i have the luxury to follow it al at some distance, they do pass the area, but this area has some conservative habits in what is best for animals that want to eat what we like to eat, most times that does not end well for such animals. and laws are usually easy forgotten.

still the wolf is not a gone problem, all but, i found a nice opinion piece from last month, that gives some good points of insight in how it comes from fantasy to big problem. and even in a small country the majority of people have little experience outside cities, so the would maybe complain a lot about rats or doves that can make your life miserable, the wolf is still not arrived in their back gardens or balconies.

our so called experts on the wolf have no real experience about dutch wolfs, because there is simply no recent experience, 150 years ago the dutch wolf was a problem, when there were simply a fraction of people living in that country and decided to end that problem by killing all of them. so if there is knowledge it is from elsewhere.

this piece gives some of the reasons why things are becoming a growing problem;

September 12, 2024/volkskrant
Opinion: If we talk about wolf and nature, please with refreshed knowledge about the real risks

The debate about the nice or dangerous wolf is so polarised that the facts threaten to snow under. Even the government bases its public information on limited and outdated research. And that is dangerous.
Much of the scientific research currently relied on by ecologists and wolf experts is from a different time and context. This makes one wonder how accurate the government's wolf education is.
For instance, it is always stated that wolves are ‘naturally’ afraid of humans. Such statements are mainly based on US research, where bounty hunters persecuted the wolf for more than 100 years, causing wolves to exhibit extreme avoidance behaviour. One consequence was that wolf researchers hardly got to see the animals and had to make do with tracking and observations from aeroplanes.
Experiences in countries where they are no longer hunted suggest that wolves are ‘naturally’ not so shy at all. This also seems to be true for numerous Dutch wolves. Figures intended to show that wolves are hardly a danger to humans are also open to question. The number of wolves that attack or kill people is negligible, according to experts. But that is not saying much.

The number of wolves in the US and Europe has been steadily increasing only in the last 20 years, after having been virtually eradicated. Moreover, the chances of encountering a wolf are extremely low in most countries: wolves live there mostly in sparsely populated, inhospitable areas. The Netherlands is one of the most densely populated countries in the world; only 10 per cent of its territory is forest.
We have no wilderness in which only a well-prepared, moreover often armed, few venture. Rather, our nature is a backyard, where young and old alike walk, jog, cycle or walk the dog unconcerned in the forest on a large scale.

Food

The generalisation in education that wolves are not dangerous to humans falsely gives the impression that wolves are ‘harmless’ or even friendly. However, wolves do regard humans and children as food commodities, research shows. Dogs also fall under their prey animals, according to recent scientific findings. Wolves are sometimes so fierce towards dogs that they attack them under people's noses, even when they are leashed or in a farmyard.

According to Finnish researchers, these are not random incidents: wolves actively seek out dogs. In doing so, they develop patterns that are in turn passed on to their offspring. And when they attack children or dogs, things
things go badly wrong. Most attacks are fatal; in other cases the injuries are very serious.
Failure to see it coming

An additional problem is that the prey catching behaviour of wolves is insufficiently known to the majority of people. As a result, it is not recognised and people do not see an attack coming at all. The terms ‘aggressive’, ‘dangerous’ and ‘attack’ tend to refer to the stress-related behaviour of dogs in which a dog approaches someone threateningly, growling, with bared teeth and all hair standing on end.

Characteristic of prey-catching behaviour, however, is that a wolf approaches its prey as close as possible without any noise or threatening behaviour, only to attack unexpectedly and at lightning speed. Before that happens, wolves often closely follow and observe their potential prey species unnoticed, for long periods of time. Cattle, which are behind wolf-proof fences, are also less safe than claimed. Meanwhile, it has been observed that there are individual ‘problem wolves’ that quickly learn to jump over fence posts with the standard size of 1 metre 20.
Adapt quickly

Generalisations do not do justice to wolf behaviour. Not all wolves behave the same ‘naturally’. Their behaviour is also determined by living conditions. Among wolves, recent scientific research shows, there are individuals who quickly adapt their behaviour to their new living situation. Based on knowledge on intelligence and learning ability in wolves, it is therefore fair to ask whether the ‘problem wolves’ are an exception to a rule.

It is risky to build policy on generalisations from another time and/or context. The knowledge of the ecologists who rightly and successfully called for wolf protection around 1980 was very limited and context-specific.

Moreover, from the ecological, economic and legal perspective, animal suffering and the emotional value of numerous (domestic) animals were disregarded at the time. It is therefore questionable whether it is still desirable to align contemporary policies with that.

About the author
Elian Hattinga van ‘t Sant is a historian of science (PhD from Utrecht University) and animal behaviourist.
https://www.volkskrant.nl/columns-opini ... ~bd58b287/


we need a lot more of these voices, not the sweet talking of everything that is going on. not blaming the victims, or even simply tell they are lying about experiences they have first hand. it only makes it overly complicated. most of these pieces are usually behind a paywall too. the media is playing ostrich with heads most times deep in the sand. only who use sources that share the daily work of wolves in other animals can have a bit of an idea it already is a big problem.

the government is even better in imitating an ostrich, their heads much have reached china already as deep as they have buried them. they trust and make use of knowledge from the so called experts, these experts are telling stories, maybe 10% of the people in the netherlands know that are simply fictional stories. because the dutch wolf proves that in its daily habits.

and because the what already can be called pro wolf experts had the first words in the discussion, the experts that indeed have relevant experience with wolves, most even european ones are not getting a foot on the ground in the discussion.

the people hardly can follow in an easy and open way what is going on, so there is a habit of telling 'the it goes great in other european countries' and that is when you spend some time on it not realistic at all.

worse the traditional eu rules excuse, that make we can not do anything, is used as a excuse to do nothing at all, but it gets a bit strange to find out that countries as sweden, finland, france, spain and many others seem to have found often solutions under exactly the same eu rules.

the eu does itself not much favour because looking into such eu rules is something that is simply horrible. the have the database that is completely unworkable. so easy checking you can forget, you must have quite a lot of dedication to find what you need. so it makes it very easy for countries inside the eu to be used as a favorite excuse.
something the media could have used for us, by asking to show the directives or regulations. most are not even available in dutch, english for sure with luck french or german, others not that common available.

so to it is as always the solution that is bred from eu rules that are hard to find and let's first talk about it in a monster that brings no solutions at all.

someone wrote that maybe the seriousness about the dutch wolf and living with it would get real attention and the want to find working solution when schoof, the prime minister at the moment is taken his trousers of by a wolf in his den hague offices.

well the old pony of ursula head of the eu did brought the talk going up, it has still not end with working solutions. so maybe we need to find a body of a member in parliament for the party of the animals, taken from the bike on route to work, because the attention gets further in talking sense.

it is not even a full dutch people problem, it is a wolf as species problem too.

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the dutch wolf will become a problem for the wolf as species in europe too.

the netherlands is simply too small and has too many people to escape meeting up. wolves cannot escape us. and as wolves are simply expelled from their families, but only after being trained in hunting locally, it means we will export this behaviour where the human is no longer something to stay away from and by that would make well by human impregnated areas also attractive for forming a new pack.

i did camp, often in the wild or on rough camping grounds many times in areas in europe that have had the wolf as a native species, never seen one, what not equals up that the wolves living there did simply not have seen me of course. i have found the odd prints left behind, but sharing that bit of nature was no problem. these wolves had simply a choice in walking away.

in the netherlands that is almost impossible, because that would simply result in meeting only other humans or their animals. so we do not have pairs that start their new pack or the first true packs that can escape us. most so called nature in the netherlands is also the result of old agriculture uses gone bad, or kept forests, only the wadden sea is pretty natural. everything is kept and monitored to stay in a certain habitat.

species that can be used as prey to feed on in dutch nature is under regulations, the wild species are deer and wild boars, but these are strictly regulated and monitored and hunted when a number is reached in an area, and many areas have a stand zero approach, so all above it usually can be hunted.

last week there was an article published about the white stork, that this bird only is present from the middle ages onwards in northern europe, because we as humans had in that time brought down enough of our primeval forests to give it enough open space to fourage on. we never stopped taking trees down, germany has very small bits of very old forest still, if it truly is primeval forest is no consensus on, but the next near one is in poland on the border with belarus.

one of the largest wooded areas, what is covered with patches of sandy dunes and heather field, but many other parcels of land still in use by humans, agriculture, but also villages and camping grounds, is the veluwe, the last wolf there was seen in 1780.
a lot in landscape use of the land and the still growing population that lives or visit the area makes it impossible for wolves to not meet up with humans at all.

there is a great write up about the history of the living together of wolves and humans for gelderland, i will put the translation under this message in another post, but who want to look at the pictures already just use the link;
https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/7804978/opgejaagd-afgemaakt-en-opgehangen-de-wolf-was-vroeger-niet-welkom-in-gelderland

with a fraction of people of today, we did grow over 18 million already last summer, it did not work out well for both parties, of course we could simply learn from lessons of the past, but no, we want a new story.

but it will be based on nice pure theoretical numbers. there is the other side in how it does work out, it does not at all.
what we see is that wolves do not want to stay in the acres of nature, but because there is not enough game, hard to get, or that they are simply lazy or connaisseurs at best, they too often love to prey on dogs, cats, horses, cows, goat , alpaca, donkey and most of all sheep. and some already have had a small taste of humans. only one was driven by fear, the both others could have simply walked away but did not.

the idea that the stories told to us at bedtime in childhood, or in a cinema by disney about the big bad wolves is always played out, but you can take from that they must have not paid attention when they had their literature classes in the past, because these kind of stories are out there in a functional way. yes the wolf is an dangerous animal for humans too. and with good reason, how many children are bitten by dogs on the open street because they had not learned to not walk up to a unknown doggy, as children in the stories in the past been just a starter for a wolf when hungry it is stupid not to bring some fear in them, so they do not walk up in their still innocent but stupid state to a wolf.

the last known wolf shot in the netherlands is said happend in 1845, so we have already quite some generations who have no idea at all about wolves, we only have the experience from tv, movies and the zoo. no one seems to understand or get why they have such enormous fences in the zoo, and still wolves often enough find a way to escape them.

but the experts mostly paid in a way by the government, hardly directly, they usually find a nice in between organisation for that, are simply telling everyone with kept animals, all you need to keep the animals safe is a wolf deterrent fence, just 5 rows of electrified wires, up to 120 cm height, and in some areas for some species of kept animals you even can have a cash back from the government in between organisations, so were before one or two rows of electric wire with pretty low voltage was enough to keep most animals in, about 50 cm and 2 wires for sheep or goats, one at 90 cm for cows, horses 2 or 3 up to 1.20 at best, you now have to fence of everything, forgetting all other wild life that makes use of the land. first you had still to be a pro keeper, but nowadays it is different everywhere.

but fencing in animals to keep them in the meant plot and area is very different, i worked mostly in a different part of the country we use mostly ditches filled with water as a fence, only temporary fences of electric wires on larger plots of fields.
and if you have a professional animal keeping enterprise it often means you have a need of a lot of land, our nowadays called a small hold already had 40 hectares, 9 of them in a nature reserve so besides cows and horses, we used sheep from others during wintertime to keep the weeds down. fencing of such property is impossible without big consequences, first we cannot put forever fencing near a waterway, so that means we would leave between 4 and 5 meters directly next to a waterway out of grazing, that would most times half our grazing fields. keeping up all fences would take many hours we never had.
besides that it is now already changed again the advice is netting with higher voltage electrics and up to 1.35m. by law we officially cannot build a permanent fence over 90 cm. but all our land would by using such netting excluding all wild life from passing or using our land too, so the roe deer would not keep up to their usually max of 12, no hares, no hedgehogs, no foxes, no swans or ducks anymore. and so many more that lives on that land without both sides have a problem with that now. it would make escaping for predator wolf almost impossible, if we as farmers would fence our properties fully in as advised, you would make islets of the nature reserves.

but even for the wolf as a species it would be less easy to travel out of their areas, they would be under even more pressure to use roads to do that, and most offspring will have to look for other places when grown up. the nature reserves and grounds will have even less possible prey to feed on.

only wolves are not easily offended, instead of seeking better grounds, they just observe and learn, so when hungry they will find a weak spot, or learn how to deal and come around the strong points, jumping higher or digging deeper. our dogs are still a result from ancient wolfpools, look what you can learn them and how quick and easy. with so many fences, you will learn them to overcome them, you can make them higher and even more sturdy, but the countryside would o longer look as we like it ourselves. most people call even our fields nature. the green fields with its wild life is indeed a arm around the bits of nature in most cases. they form together a much loved landscape and that would be gone.

and the few years the wolf is back proves it can learn to deal with the advised wolf deterrent fences very good. as wolves are known to travel easily long distances, one of the young wolves that really played havoc by bringing down and killing sheep and larger stock ended up in a week in france, where it was shot because he did the same there.

so we export a different kind of wolf as we started with, one that is trained and learned to not have fear of humans, and also already have the ability to overcome fences easily.

another risk is still a mystery, a kept one, and that is hybridisation between wolf and dogs, there seems to be some secrets kept on that one, i have still no sight on how known this really is. we are still told our dutch wolves are a true wolf species that started from a polish population of true wolves. still it is important to clear this up, such debates need honesty, not hiding bureaucratically at all. a dog wolf hybrid can simply be killed under our standing law. and such a hybrid would do not much good for the wolf as a species too. less with what is known about such affairs.

the wolf itself is a great animal, a top predator too, but i am not a expert on wolves itself, all i do know is that in the areas they still lived on where i have been myself and did not hear about about big problems from the locals there, and i myself had no problem at all or even did meet up in a confrontation with a wolf, i do know that were very different areas, very low presence of humans and kept animals, very large areas to roam for wolves without becoming a pest. if an specific wolf was a problem, it was said solved locally, not even looking to the law, but just a hunter who would shoot it and buried it under some bushes, and no one the wiser. i know by direct experience this is a habit in the netherlands too, only a lot harder to do it out of eyes with a difference in opinion on that. as long as it not is growing into eradication i think such things can still work well.
these lines are also hard to break because you will walk up to a wall of silence on it.

i do not endorse such problem solving habits, but i do think local knowledge will be of much use to solve a lot of trouble, it usually works out better as endless talking in a government or on social media by their voters. but use that knowledge to make a workable solution, that also plays fair with the law and the animal itself.

the largest predator of the dutch wolf is simply traffic. like humans they must have learned that the paved roads, bridges and other means to pass are easy to travel, and they do make use of them often, no fences only wolf bodies are not doing well with passing traffic. it is by the impression of most solutions that are in effect already, that do not work, wolves learn easy, but still cannot read the paper work of road signs, just escape a large scale of closing of a majority of roads to protect the holy species of the wolf in a modern society.

i think the rest of humane europe would land in some problems when the routes from rotterdam harbour to the hinterlands is closed to let wolves pass safely when expelled by their families.

so all in all the netherlands are not a good habitat for the wolf, becoming a subspecies as the dutch wolf that will be exported well , because of common wolf behaviour will risk so much more for the species itself. and it is time to take down some rules put up during the convention of bern in 1979, when the wolf was on a deep low in fitting habitats to leave out a insanity play to want that still going on in 2024 europe.

the netherlands will never be a great habitat for the wolf as a species. and to offer up an open landscape with grazing animals, what actually by other law and wants is still very much promoted cannot be made suitable for both.
all what will happen is a the making of a subspecies the dutch wolf, or civilisation derived subspecies, that will go back into older territories that have no problems in interactions with humans.

learning that kept animals are a easy to get prey, instead of hunting larger wild prey in a true wild habitat, losing any restrictions in meeting humans, that will bring besides direct effects also on a burden of diseases from dogs that come with the humans.

also where will it stop with simply telling others you just have to learn how to deal with it and deal with what happened, will that only be a need for the people that make use of the countryside to live, to be active in sports and recreation, to do that sunday stroll, that lesson in nature under school time. or will that become a need for city people too, foxes do live already in big cities, but a wolf is not simply a bit bigger. would it be okay if a wolf hunts a playground in a park too? humans are by nature simply on the plate of wolves.

the so called experts, the other kind from the above opinion piece, and that is government approved as experts on wolves have dome a lot of promises, but the wolf have proves all of them as silly stupid and not true already. they are not helping an in itself beautiful animal at all. it even is getting a higher grade of risk to keep a wolf a true wolf as a species, and besides some written law, there is something in the background playing too, laws are always the result of why there was a need for that bit of law, the ghost of the law, or meaning of that law.

i think it would be extremely hard to find an earlier expert that actually took part in what ende up on the table during the convention of bern, that expected a wolf using the netherlands as its habitat, old school experts already said then no the wolf would not like so much humans and human activity they would stay away from it. the problem now is that the preservation of the wolf in their sound habitats is overflowing, there are no good and sound habitats enough to go go to and be a wolf, so we not only have to deal with a simple surplus, but also the weaker ones who in nature are simply by their natural ability are not been able to keep a stand for a pack in better living conditions. we let the weakest links alive and breeding and give them a chance to get back. by not giving then any enemy training at all, that usually does not end well, see what results it does give in humans.

i would anyone who suggested in 1979, declared simply insane, that i one day would see multiple days a kingfisher in my back garden in a small city on the roof of my shed. and i was even more outspoken in such things in that year. i think a wolf had been already much more likely. different species, but the species with legs are usually more sturdy over the ones with wings, the winged one have usually simply a more sophisticated taste for their living quarters. also humans made dogs from wolves once.

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original link in dutch, but with great pictures;

https://www.gld.nl/nieuws/7804978/opgejaagd-afgemaakt-en-opgehangen-de-wolf-was-vroeger-niet-welkom-in-gelderland


ARNHEM - In 2018, the wolf resettled in Gelderland after almost two hundred years of absence. Nowadays, the wolf is a legally protected species, but it used to be different. Until well into the nineteenth century, the wolf was unwanted and was actively hunted, in the ‘general interest of man and beast.’
In the Geldersche Volksalmanak of 1886, we read that the wolf was not much loved in the centuries before. ‘The wolf, after the bear, the greediest and strongest of our predators, used to be the terror of the farmer in Gelderland too. In harsh winters he even ventured into the bowels of inhabited villages, stole the sheep from the stable, the child from the cradle and sometimes attacked the lonely hiker in the woods with troops.’
Wolf tore apart a young girl
The animals caused a lot of damage to hunting game and livestock, leading to direct economic losses. A few historical sources describe how wolves also attacked humans. In the Groot Placaatboek van Utrecht, a wolf plague in 1590 is described, in which a wolf ‘verschuert ende ommegebracht een jonck schamel meysken. And in 1646, a hunter near De Bilt is said to have been eaten by four wolves ‘to the bones,’ we read in Isaac Commelin's ‘Frederik Hendrick’ of 1652. Many people were therefore afraid of the wolf. So scared, in fact, that they almost dared not pronounce its name, for fear of summoning it. Legends and fairy tales about evil (werewolf) wolves did not help the animal's image either.
At the end of the 16th century, there was a veritable plague of wolves in Gelderland and surrounding provinces, including the Veluwe. Fleeing marauding Spanish troops, many Veluwe people abandoned their farms. As a result, the wolves have free rein and their population is growing explosively. The year 1592 is therefore noted in the annals as an evil year for wolves.

Premium for a dead wolf
Therefore, from that year onwards, premiums were offered for killing a wolf ‘to the conservation and tranquillity of the game.’ Between 1592 and 1599, a hunter in the Veluwe received 18 guilders for a dead adult wolf and 9 guilders for a cub. Fifty years later, these amounts had risen to ƒ50 and ƒ10 respectively. In 1814, a national hunting law was introduced, which included a bounty for killing wolves. A dead adult female yielded 30 guilders, a male 25 guilders and a cub 15 guilders. This bounty was paid from the national treasury, because hunting wolves was seen as ‘in the general interest of man and beast.
How do you catch a wolf?
Various methods were used to catch wolves. Such as digging a deep trapping pit, covered with grass and moss. This involved using a decoy sheep or goat to lure wolves to the pit and - once they fell into the pit - kill them. The name of Nijmegen's Wolfskuil district possibly derives from this trapping method.
The regular ‘wolfvenger’ of Rosendael castle used bait in 1392. The wolves that came to this were then killed. Further hunting was done with specially trained dogs, iron wolf traps and wooden gallows. Wolf nests were also dug out to catch the cubs.

In addition, large-scale wolf hunts were organised. As early as 1384, the Duke of Gelre personally went wolf hunting, accompanied by Arnhem administrators. In the Veluwe, wolves killed mainly game birds, which naturally did not please the nobles of Gelre. Hence, they organised joint wolf drives, in which all men between 14 and 60 were obliged to participate.
Large groups of people hunted the wolves towards a trap, in the form of a stretched net or a river. There, the animals were killed with weapons. The Staten Placaatboek of Utrecht describes such a hunt. The wolves were driven from Utrecht to the Rhine, where - once cornered - they were shot at from boats on the river. In order to prevent the wolves from escaping into Gelderland territory, the Drost of the Veluwe was requested ‘with his house lieutenants from Scherpenseel, a few from Ede and Barnevelt to help round them up at his discretion.’ Those of Vianen, Culemborg, Buren and the Ambtman of Tiel and Nederbetuwe were also invited, ‘to occupy their dykes and weir and help destroy the wolf.’

And that was no superfluous luxury, because things had already gone wrong in 1531, when the Duke of Cleves drove the wolves into Gelderland during a hunt in Hoogwald, to the great harm of the ‘poor ondersaeten’. At this, Duke Charles of Gelre called on the Burchtgraaf of Nijmegen, the Ambtman of Maas and Waal and the Lords of the Lordships to unite ‘to hunt down those wolves as much as possible.’
The killed wolves were then hanged, as a kind of victory sign, according to the Geldersche Volksalmanak of 1886. In Elst, this was done in front of the Offictshuis, and in Nijmegen, a shot wolf was hung in an iron collar under a window pane of the former Windmolenpoort in Molenstraat.
Blood of dead wolf on farm
In 1599, the city councillors and the jonkers of the Veluwe decided that ‘die menichte van wolffen’ and ‘dese schaedelycke ondieren verhaet moeghen worden. The premiums for killed and captured wolves were increased: ‘for every old one caught or broken up, four hundred and twenty-four guilders will be paid, instead of the eighteen guilders’, according to the Kwartierrecessen of Veluwe.
Many Veluwe people would not let that be said twice. The accounts of the Receiver-General of Veluwe show that in 1599 bounties were paid for wolves caught in Voorst, Apeldoorn, Beekbergen, Epe, on the properties of the lord of Middachten, in the Sprielderbosch and near Putten and Ermelo. At Woeste Hoeve, two girls even manage to get hold of a young wolf.
In the same year, the sheep of Oosterbeek shepherds are attacked and torn apart by wolves. And in winter, a pack of wolves entrenches itself in the Wolfhezer and Oosterbeek forests. One January day, one of these wolves attacks two men. They shoot the beast, take it home and sprinkle their farm with the animal's blood to scare off other wolves. Then they go to Arnhem to collect their earned bounty.
The last wolf hunt
Wolf nuisance and control continued for at least another hundred years, and during the 18th century the wolf population became smaller and smaller. Not only because of those wolf hunts, but also because forests are cut down and replaced by farmland. As a result, the wolf's habitat becomes smaller and smaller and their numbers continue to decline. And that brings an end to communal wolf hunts. The last hunt on the Veluwe probably took place on 25 May 1745.

A wolf in Wolfheze
In 1780, a wolf was last spotted on the Veluwe. Twenty years later, the last wolf was spotted in the Achterhoek and in February 1822, near Groesbeek, the last wild wolf was killed on Gelderland soil. Yet 75 years later, things got very exciting for a while with a wolf on the loose in Wolfheze.
Indeed, on Saturday 10 July 1897, a wolf escaped from a passing train wagon. The animal was on its way from the zoo in Hamburg to Artis in Amsterdam and somehow managed to wriggle out of its pen. Jan Schildering, the forester of De Hemelsche Berg estate near Oosterbeek, sees the wolf near his henhouse that morning and shoots it dead. The whole village runs out to see the dead wolf.
A report in ‘De Morgenpost’ of 17 July 1897 reads. ‘In front of a black shed stood a small boy, holding a faded flag as a sign of victory; on the door of the shed was a paper attached which read: ‘25 ct admission.’ A group of villagers stood around it mysteriously. Tone solemnly opened the door and truly there lay the dangerous tourist: shot, dead, skinny and with a bulging eye.’
The wolf is stuffed and given a place in country house The Hemelsche Berg. It seems that the children of the Beelaerts van Blokland family still regularly re-enacted the Little Red Riding Hood fairy tale with the beast. Unfortunately, the stuffed wolf was lost when the manor house was destroyed during the Battle of Arnhem in September 1944.
And that was the last wolf to roam Gelderland for the time being, until 2018.

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dutch wolves get a bite in the daily mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13953415/EU-wolves-Europe-attacks-pet-dogs-ponies-humans.html

it seems the daily mail uses thw wolf to give their twopence at the eu.

but it is not really the eu, because the eu regulations on this matter are grounded on the convention of bern, that was the result of the in 1949 in london set up council of europe.

https://www.coe.int/en/web/about-us/who-we-are

not so eu, and the uk is still member of this;

https://www.coe.int/en/web/about-us/our-member-states

but as each country has also still its one law to make use of, most member states of the eu, can still opt for bits of their own law to not follow fully on eu regulations. sweden, france and also austria are much easier on using the bullet solution to wolves that are a problem.

and as we got the first wolves, or wolf it came walking on her own in 2018, in 2019 a male arrived and they started their pack.

so the bigger problem is that as a journalist from the parool it gave a new tittle; biological-ecocological disturbed people loves wolves, mostly because they have not even a back garden for wolves to stay in, and we simply have a lazy government, a common diseases in todays modern times, wolves are only a big problem for the underdog, that are the ones who have besides back gardens also more acreage of land with animals wolves like to dine on.

and as guidance is done by so called but not really being experts on dutch wolves in our overly used and populated country is takes only much longer. animal welfare and animal rights group block all routes to change anything at all.

but the daily mail is not the only one who loves to point a finger to the eu, our government loves doing that with great effort too.

the rest of the article is about right in what it states.

and i already heard the first who had the idea to learn the wolves to steer a dinghy, because we heard they will be welcome anyway in brittain, so maybe we ca find our self a expert in training wolves to row the boat. and i would if i was brittain accept them before we can learn them how to eat humans.

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