Things in General

actually she could have used the surname in italian; fontana, she married a certain tito fontana in the same year as the feathered dress.

COLUMBUS just from spain, well that means the other guesses about his origins must be wrong, the last genua in italy worked for some years, but now he must be by dna, at least from the remains in spain, and they seem to have looked to the dna of his son too.

not only where they guy was from, also where he in his remaining form is resting always was some disputing going on.

they also did look at old stuff for people who had the surname columbus, so it seems there is an as usually a kind of consensus.

sometimes you start to think why bother, we already had to learn during history it was a guy called columbus who was the first we still remember to have reaching the americas. we actually always were a bit in favour of the vikings, and most access these did beat columbus by centuries.

but for the quiz enthusiastics the new correct answer is spain.

feel free to translate the official response by the dutch national news; https://nos.nl/artikel/2540606-dna-onderzoek-christoffel-columbus-kwam-waarschijnlijk-uit-spanje

It's also reported back at Blighty..

Little pot boilers, there is always something new to dispute the already disputed mysteries of the past.

Taking the knee!?! That work of art should be destroyed forthwith!

Columbus likely Spanish and Jewish, study suggests


Christopher Columbus arrived in the Americas in 1492, beginning a period of European contact with the region

Alex Smith
BBC News

Published
3 hours ago

Famed explorer Christopher Columbus was likely Spanish and Jewish, according to a new genetic study conducted by Spanish scientists that aimed to shed light on a centuries-old mystery.

Scientists believe the explorer, whose expedition across the Atlantic in 1492 changed the course of world history, was probably born in western Europe, possibly in the city of Valencia.

They think he concealed his Jewish identity, or converted to Catholicism, to escape religious persecution.

The study of DNA contradicts the traditional theory, which many historians had questioned, that the explorer was an Italian from Genoa.

Columbus led an expedition backed by Spain's Catholic Monarchs seeking to establish a new route to Asia - but instead he reached the Caribbean.

His arrival there was the beginning of a period of European contact with the Americas, which would lead to conquest and settlement - and the deaths of many millions of indigenous people to diseases and war.

Countries have argued for years over the explorer's origin, with many claiming him as one of their own.

There have been an estimated 25 conflicting theories of his birthplace, including Poland, Great Britain, Greece, Portugal, Hungary and Scandinavia.

These new findings are based on more than two decades of research.

The study began in 2003, when José Antonio Lorente, professor of forensic medicine at Granada University, and the historian Marcial Castro, exhumed what were believed to be the remains of Columbus from Seville Cathedral.

Columbus died in the Spanish city of Vallodalid in 1506 but wished to be buried on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. His remains were taken there in 1542 but centuries later were transferred to Cuba before being finally laid to rest in Seville.

The researchers also took DNA samples from the tomb, and from the bones of Columbus' son, Hernando, and brother, Diego.

Since then scientists have compared that genetic information with that of historical figures and the explorer's relatives in order to try and solve the mystery.

The previously widely accepted theory was that Columbus was born in Genoa in 1451, to a family of wool weavers.

But they now believe he lived in Spain - likely in Valencia - and was Jewish. They think he hid his background to avoid persecution.

Around 300,000 practicing Jews lived in Spain, before they along with Muslims were ordered to either convert to Catholicism or leave the country in 1492, the year Columbus landed in the Americas.

Announcing the study's results on the television documentary Columbus DNA: His True Origin, Professor Lorente said they were "almost absolutely reliable".

The programme - which aired on Spain's national broadcaster RTVE on Saturday night - coincided with Spain's National Day.

The day celebrates the explorer's arrival in the Americas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko

PS: AI has just changed Blighty to flighty.

'It's also reported back at flighty'? Duh!

yep, they do it all the time, and i can no longer find typpex, you know the white stuff when you made a mistake and could not be bothered enough to just start it over again, most of course is solved by the backspace. but it can be hard to remember the questions on trivial pursuit now need a new answer too.

it is only waiting until a rewrite of christian religion trivia to make them completely useless. just as you know almost all of the 3000 questions by heart. i cannot win on throwing of the dice, just lack of talent there, so i have to do it with the answers.

but there is still hope there is a duplicate set of remains in the dominican republic, maybe they find another expert to get him back in genua. who knows after so many years on ships, must have been hard to recognise him at the return. even that unwashed shirt can have played in his favour if it was a imposter , who would go near the unwashed.